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When insurrections die - Gilles Dauvé (w/ bonus Stimulator!)

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  • Lambert Meertens 18th Aug 2017

    The ”bonus” gave a palyback error for me on several browsers, but here is a youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHtxeKLR638 .

    The Dauvé text does somehow remain invisible on Firefox. It can also be found here: https://libcom.org/library/when-insurrections-die .

  • Bat Chainpuller 18th Aug 2017

    This is a lot to read...just more and more it seems. 80 pages if you download the pdf from libcom of which I havevread nearly 40 or so. Hard to wrap my head around it as I am not so familiar with details of the history being outlined and all the names of political parties and groups. But then I read this, https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/the-fetishization-of-violence/ , then this, https://louisproyect.org/2017/08/15/antifa-and-the-perils-of-adventurism/ , which linked to this, https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/05/antifascist-movements-hitler-nazis-kpd-spd-germany-cold-war

    I guess it's a lot to discuss...

    The original article, while a lot to digest, felt like a history of coordinators playing game of thrones...it ofte appears like that to me when I read these histories, at least on a superficial level...long term visions, ideals, ideas etc., getting lost in the throes of mayhem and out of the confusion many a Big Daddy White Geezers positions himself for the spoils when relative stability resumes...kind of losing site of where the real fight and focus should be in the same sense many pundits of radical left proclivities suggested could happen if Trump got in...

    Just an initial thought based on some fastish reading as I try to get through a fair bit...

  • . 23rd Aug 2017

    I used to write things on this website under my real full name and then there were some social consequences that made it very difficult to continue on with chosen job aspirations. That wasn't all it was, but it definitely was some in a situation where a lot rides on how smart influential people think you are. The final nail in the coffin so to speak was when I reached out to one of the experts to ask them a research related question.
    Ah well. Perhaps it's a case of being too sensitive. For all it matters I don't think any less of a person for blogging under a trippy cool blog name. But we do need better editing tools for the website. It's not that I'm not interested in the text or too lazy to read, it's just I care about connections and feelings too.

    • Lambert Meertens 24th Aug 2017

      Academia can be cruel. It is the perfect spot for backstabbing, even more so than the corporate ladder. I hope you were not hurt. I don't know what your aspirations were and are, but if you can show at least some students that there are other ways of looking at things than the way they have been conditioned to think, it is a triumph.

    • . 25th Aug 2017

      Thanks for your kind words and positive reframing. Academia is supposed to function for the students and most people are committed to that. It's mostly differences of perspective and scarcity ... not a teacher anymore but I try to be collegial and teachable.

  • . 23rd Aug 2017

    In trying to preserve one's personal sense of integrity in communication I find this dilemma between not talking about other people places or things lest you misrepresent them, but then, if you frame your statements from the subjective, "I feel, I think..." then you sound, well, self-centered or "all about me - ish" You could also say nothing but then be mistaken for an introvert, inarticulate, socially awkward, disengaged, apathetic, or take your pick of other negative valuations on the laconic. If I were to dare to bring in Foucault I would say that these sorts of questions don't come out of a singularly neurotic consciousness but are rather an echo of the contemporary hyper-interest in the management of management and the conduct of conduct (reading Foucault through Nikolas Rose). It's hard to escape that optic or that sense of being-turned-into-an-optic of disciplinary power even in the commons. Zizek's answer is to just not care because to not care is to retain your enjoyment of the exchanges, the willfulness of writing about insurrections, or writing about writing about applecart-upset.

    • Lambert Meertens 24th Aug 2017

      It is hard (for many people) to bluntly tell someone to their face that they are wrong. When you disagree with someone, it is much easier to state you have a different opinion. So when you say "I feel/think ...", framing whatever it is you want to convey as an opinion, you leave more room for others to voice a different opinion. This then offers an opening for a dialogue.

      So, rather than being indicative of self-centricity, I believe it shows willingness to engage in a dialogue and explore things together.